1095 is not the same as per heat treat . Ontario RAT 3 ((See More Photos)) If you can’t afford the ESEE take the Ontario RAT 3, this is why I tell my friends, the RAT 3 has same toughness of the ESEE 4P with a smaller blade and handle, it comes with a 3.9″ inches drop point blade made from the 1095 High … 4.7 out of 5 stars 194. This sheath is ambidextrous, features extra attachment slots, and is able to be used in high-ride or low-ride positions, vertical or horizontal carry. 83. My understanding is they are basically the same thing though, as Esee broke off from Ontario a few years ago or something. If you are on a really low budget there is a cheapo $20 clone. ESEE Knives ESEE-3P-MB Plain Edge, Coyote Brown Sheath, MOLLE Bac…. Another help that I need is to know the difference between ESEE 3 and ESEE 4 with the respective sheath (and if possible, with the sheath and the MOLLE back attached). $33.28 $ 33. I like the slightly longer handle on the Esee, but just wanted your guys' opinon. Ontario RAT-3 vs. Esee 3 Hey r/knifeclub ! Unlike the RAT 5, the RAT 3 has a great sheath system with fantastic, almost dangerously secure, friction retention (not to mention a complimentary Tek-Lok), and the knife is actually comfortable to hold without gloves. Ontario Knife Company 8665 Rat-3 Plain Edge with Black Nylon Sheath, Black/Tan, One Size. Also if there are any similar/comparable knives to these ones you would recommend that would be great. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Hey r/knifeclub! By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Definitely go with the ESEE. 3/16 is still pretty thick. An alternative to r/knives. The ESEE fan base has spoken and ESEE has taken the classic ESEE-3 and added 3D contoured scales and attached them to a S35VN steel blade. The Esse 3 will so much suit on your needs better than perfect, while the Izula is too small to be a primary blade, however you … Ontario is ok if you really don't want to pinch out that extra dollar and just get a whatever fixed blade, but you can't match the quality in an ESEE for only a few extra dollars. Featuring a full tang 1095 carbon steel blade paired with a green canvas Micarta handle. After designing the RAT-3 for Ontario Knife Company, it was the first design we brought over when ESEE Knives (Formerly RAT … Flat grind's a must. Could see the ESEE-3 doing great in a variety of scenarios, from a day hike to life on a ranch. Rowen's heat treat is better and more consistent than Ontario's. Esee Izula II vs Onterio Rat-3 Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by SFW, Apr 15, 2015. The Rat 3 is taller, thicker and heavier than the Trapper. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Current EDC: ColdSteel AK-47, Leatherman PS4 Squirt, ESEE Izula. Look no further than our slim profile ESEE-3 RAT-3 Kydex Sheath, guaranteed to improve the carry ability of your knife, and now compatible with the ESEE 52-POUCH accessory! Conclusion Both Esee 3 vs Izula 2 have multiple carry options and also are discreet enough to carry without the sheeple getting scared. Ontario Rat II Folder OD Green. 6 years ago. This is a simple, robust knife, designed by those who adventure for a living. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Apr 15, 2015 #1. The ESEE 3 is a more appropriate EDC blade coming in 3 ounces lighter as well as being a more manageable size to keep in your pocket or clipped to your belt. thanks very much! The classic Rat, now ESEE, knives, with MOLLE compatible sheathes and a variety of handle colors. The ESEE-3 fixed blade knife is one of the most versatile survival knives available on the market today. the coating is phosphate on the Ont. Yea Becker makes pretty nice stuff, just had a look at them. Quality control & warranty are the big points for me. So heat treating is the difference, so ESEE holds a cut better? This is a great all purpose size and a lightweight carry for such a strong knife. Do you want to carry it everyday? Now if you are cutting your way out of 55 gal drums on a regular basis then by all means go with the 5 … ESEE Knives ESEE-3 Uncoated Top 25 in Fixed-Blade Knives Specs. The only dimensions that are actually smaller is total length, where they are .45" different, and 1/8" of edge. ESEE-3 S35V Fixed Blade Knife, 3D Contoured Handle, Ambidextrous Polymer Sheath, Made in USA. Aside from that I cant really tell you anything firsthand about the RAT3. $55.97 $ 55. The ESEE 3 & Ontario/RAT 3 are from a design perspective are almost the same knife, but there is a difference. Can anyone explain why? Below is a quick review between ESEE-3 vs. Izula 2, both are excellent slim, … 4.5 out of 5 stars 14. Rowen's warranty is better than Ontario's. But would you guys reccomend one over the other? i'm not on a low budget, so i'll likely go with a higher quality/price knife, but thanks a lot for the suggestion! Press J to jump to the feed. Th… not too sure if this is the right sub to ask this question, but i'm in the market for a shorter length fixed blade knife. FREE Shipping by Amazon. ESEE has a heat treat from the ROWEN who do an amazing job, Ontario is some other place. 4. The slightly thinner blade also is more appropriate for everyday tasks and makes slicing up tomatoes more fun than it should be. Yea man just had a look at the becker knives, really nice stuff. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I do own an ESEE3 MIL and its a good knife. There is a long history between Ontario and ESEE the short version of the story is Ontario won a lawsuit and the rights to the RAT name and to produce the designs. I know Warriors and Wonders doesn't even inspect the ESEE's they send out because they know 100% that there wont be any problems with them. Rowen's fit and finish is better than Ontario's. On the other hand, Rat 5 is thinner, lighter, and more affordable. Spend the extra money and get the ESEE 3. Even more than my beloved Ka-Bar (blasphemy, I know). Cookies help us deliver our Services. Back when ESEE was RAT cutlery they made a deal with Ontario that they could make lower quality lower cost blades of some of their models basically. Design by Jeff & Mike of RAT now ESEE Knives after 5 year contract expired with Ontario. Ontario pays royalities for still making theRAT lineup. See the detailed comparisons between Esee 5 vs Rat 5 below! ESEE-3 Fixed Blade Knife, 3D Contoured Handle, 1095 Carbon Steel, Black Ambidextrous Sheath, Made in USA. Apr 16, 2015 #21. I love Ka-bar and becker is apart of them. The ESEE-3 is still a favorite among law enforcement and military teams due to its light weight, thin profile and various sheath options. The Rat 3 is taller, thicker and heavier than the Trapper. I have the Bk7 and bk 9. From when I asked a similar question earlier, people said that ESEE is higher quality. The ESEE3 has a much better warranty. I need a midsized fixed blade outdoorsman's knife, like the ESEE 3 or the ESEE 4, which are my backup options if I can't find what I really want. The total length is 11 inches with a blade length of 5.25 inches. I've always been drawn to the look of Ontario's in their online photos, but every time I've held one in person, I can't bring myself to buy any of them out of a batch, whether it be the handles are bizzarly thick, handles don't line up with the tang, grind issues with the edge or even small chips in the blade. Re: Esee5 vs. Ratmandu Hey Rob why the 5? $126.83 $ 126. I like a leaf-shaped blade or even a wharncliffe. 12,963. 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